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Review of John Burke’s book No Perfect People Allowed

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No Perfect People Allowed

John Burke: No Perfect People Allowed: Creating a Come-as-You-Are Culture in the Church


5.0 out of 5 stars An outstanding description of what the church should be today, February 25, 2009

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Andrew D. Rowell (Durham, NC) – See all my reviews

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John Burke tells many stories about the way Gateway Community Church in Austin, Texas has touched people who were skeptical about Christianity. In the process, we learn much about the way Burke approaches ministry at both the personal counseling and leadership structure levels. This might be the best book for describing what people who are not Christians want from a church–compassion, practical help, meaning and God. I would expect church leaders to read this and say, "No wonder we do not have many people becoming Christians at our church–our church is nothing like Gateway." I would expect people who are skeptical about the church to say, "Church wouldn't actually be that bad if it looked like what Burke here describes in this book." There are few easy answers here–Burke expects leaders to be thoughtful, compassionate, personable, theologically astute, courageous and strategic. Burke is a free church or "nondenominational" evangelical who used to work at Willow Creek Community Church so his approach will seem quite casual, flexible, and non-liturgical to people from Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal, Presbyterian, and Methodist backgrounds but even they will appreciate his sensitivity and thoughtfulness toward outsiders. As a doctor of theology student, I occasionally wondered about the coherence of his approach to apologetics and how he reconciles encouraging affinity groups along with "a culture of acceptance" but my pastoral experience and my interest in missiology make me sympathetic to the need to be flexible in some of these respects–the Apostle Paul could be accused of these same "inconsistencies." All in all, this is a fine book. If I were to teach a course on Christian ministry or evangelism or the church, I would require it. No Perfect People Allowed provides hope about what the church can be and this is what many people need.

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Books Duke Divinity School Ecclesiology Ken Carder Leadership Missiology

Ken Carder’s course The Local Church in Mission to God’s World books

I am the preceptor (teaching assistant) for retired United Methodist Church Bishop Ken Carder’s course “The Local Church in Mission to God’s World” this semester at Duke Divinity School.  Here are the books on the reading list and his syllabus.   Update January 2010: Here is the 2010 version: Ken Carder's course The Local Church in Mission to God's World

Required Texts:

Other resources:

See the Sustaining Pastoral Excellence website for more Duke Divinity School resources on pastoring.


Posts on Ken Carder's other course Introduction to Christian Ministry (Fall 2008):

Ken Carder: Introduction to Christian Ministry books (Fall 2008)

Education in the Local Church: Taylor, Willimon, Storey, Niebuhr, and Groome

Review of Pastor: Theology and Practice by Will Willimon

Review of With God in the Crucible by Peter Storey

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Evangelism John Howard Yoder Lesslie Newbigin Missiology Missional

Two different definitions of missional: Guder and Newbigin

Go read Brad Brisco's post: Lesslie Newbigin and the GOCN if you want to get at a more nuanced understanding of the divisions within the missional conversation at a scholarly level. 

Brisco excerpts a few paragraphs from Trinity Western University professor Michael W. Goheen 500 page dissertation on Newbigin:
 “As the Father Has Sent Me, I Am Sending You”: J.E. Lesslie Newbigin’s Missionary Ecclesiology.

Goheen points out differences between the work of Darrell Guder and The Gospel and Our Culture Network who produced the famous book The Missional Church and the work of Lesslie Newbigin who was a big influence on them. 

In the comments, D.Min. student at Fuller Josh Rowley and I both remark that the work of Guder bears striking similarities to Stanley Hauerwas here at Duke (who I am taking a class with starting January 7 "HAPPINESS, THE LIFE OF VIRTUE, AND FRIENDSHIP"), and John Howard Yoder.  And that they all diverge in some ways from Newbigin. 

At Duke Divinity School, we like all of those folks and read them.  I personally recommend them as well. 

See also Laceye Warner (one of my advisors) and Paul Wesley Chilcote outstanding new set of schoarly readings on this topic:
The Study of Evangelism: Exploring a Missional Practice of the Church (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2008).  They include selections from both Newbigin and Hauerwas.

If you are interested in seeing what all the fuss is about–"what this really means on the ground"–you can look through some of the debate about the term "missional" which I have chronicled at this post.
Following Dan Kimball's Missional vs. Megachurch conversation If you think the megachurch is terrible, then you will probably be on the side of Guder, Hauerwas and Yoder.  If you are not so sure it is that bad, you will appreciate Newbigin.