Church Leadership Conversations

  • Memorable humorous quotes from our kids 2009-2012

    I looked through my Facebook timeline and thought I would paste here for posterity a number of humorous quotes from the kids I have been posting to Facebook. I also include today’s photo of the kids.

     

    Ryan (7), Jacob (4), and Allie (2) with Duke basketball players Tyler Thornton and Nolan Smith (now with the Portland Trail Blazers) at the home opener of the #1 ranked Duke women’s soccer team.
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    4 year-old Jacob, “I saw the women’s bathroom at church and it is way nicer than the men’s bathroom.” 7-year-old Ryan, “Maybe that’s because women didn’t used to have rights.” 
    Andy Rowell
    Amy Steinfield Rowell asks 7 year-old lying on his bed after a long day of swimming: “Ryan, are you tired or hungry? Are you ok?” Ryan: “It’s just my mind is blank.” 

     

    While cutting up 4-year-old Jacob’s waffle, he opens up his mouth wide and points to it saying, “Dad, here’s how big my mouth is. Now you can cut up my waffles the right size.”
    Me: “Allie, was there a kiddie pool?” Allie (2 years old): “Yes, a cat pool. A kitty pool.”

     

    Today is Ryan’s last day of first grade. He woke up this morning and wrote a note to a friend in his class. — with Amy Steinfield Rowell.

     

     

     

    Me: “Jacob, you are in need of sanctification.” Jacob (age 4): “No, you need a vacation.”

     

     

    Our six-year-old Ryan really wants a dog. Sigh. Gotta love the phonetic spelling though. — with Amy Steinfield Rowell.

     ‎”I am saving my many for a chiwwa dog. It cost 70¢ and 70 dolers.$ I will trito wat until my sisttr gross up.”

     

    Me to the kids: “We don’t like commercials and advertisements because they are always wanting us to do stuff we don’t need to do.” 4-year-old Jacob: “Daddy, you are kind of like a commercial.”

     

    Jacob (4), after the Duke hockey game, watching the players shake hands. “Do they get a parent tunnel?”
    A couple good lines from 3-year-old Jacob: “The disciples said, ‘No.’ But Jesus said ‘Let the monkeys come to me.’” And unrelated–As Jacob is attempting to put on his pajamas: “Is that the shirt or the pants?”
    Andy Rowell
    April 9, 2011

     5-year-old Ryan on my career, “You’re nothing yet. How should I put it? . . . You’re still learning.”
    Andy Rowell
    March 16, 2011

     3-year-old Jacob watching the Duke game on TV on Saturday after playing 3-4-year-old basketball at the YMCA, “Hey, they are letting the daddies play.”
    3-year-old Jacob on the deck listening to the birds, “The birds are saying ‘rebound, rebound’ to the Duke players . . . No, they are saying ‘chicken, chicken.’” Hmm . . .
    5-year-old Ryan praying for food he is not excited about: “Thank you God for the food I guess.”
    Five year old Ryan seeing a peace sign: “That means Hannah Montana.”
    At breakfast, five year old Ryan: “I’m not sure if Santa will know whether I want a real or pretend puppy from the letter I wrote him at school.” At lunch, Ryan: “Do we have a chimney?” Me: “No.” Ryan: “Is that why we go to other people’s houses on Christmas eve?” At dinner Amy prays: “Thank you God for baby Jesus.” Three year old Jacob: “And thank you God for Santa.”
    Ryan, our new kindergartner, who does not speak any Spanish, on his friend Ken from school who does not speak any English, “He says my name in English. He understands me. We’re friends.” [Sadly, after two months of school, Ken’s family is moving to Mexico this weekend].
    Four year old Ryan, “There will be five in our family once the baby hatches.”
    Andy Rowell
    December 26, 2009

     On our way back to Durham from Charlotte, two year old Jacob recognized our neighborhood Starbucks: “There’s mommy’s house!”
    4 year old Ryan today: “That [the Christmas story] is a good story except there is this one bad part. The king says he wants to worship the newborn king but he wants to hurt the newborn king. The king is LYING.”
    Ryan (4) left his stuffed animal Fanny the Fox at church tonight. Amy: She can sleep at church. Ryan: Oh no, she will be cold! Amy: Someone at church will cover her up. Ryan: No, they will think she’s pretend!
    Jacob turns 2 today. When he woke up this morning I told him: “Jacob, Happy Birthday.” Jacob: “Pizza.” He has learned a few things about life these first two years.
    2 quotes from Ryan (4) today. “I don’t want water on my hair–I don’t want it to grow fast!” and “My tummy is full–am I becoming a mommy?”
    Ryan (4): “Jonah was always going to to go to Nineveh. He just wanted to ride in a whale.”
    Ryan (4), “Goliath wore flip-flops.”
  • Why the theology doctorate and why ecclesiology is practical

    I am continuing to work away at my dissertation. As of tonight, it stands at 92,085 words (303 pages in Microsoft Word). The dissertation only needs to be 80-100 K words but I have lots of revising to do. I think the product (likely a book a few years from now) will be both a significant contribution to the literature surrounding Karl Barth's ecclesiology as well as an excellent entry point for people interested in the theology of the church. In the dissertation, I explore how Barth's understanding of the church has been understood across the ecclesial spectrum from Eastern Orthodox to Roman Catholic to Lutheran to Anglican to Reformed to Methodist to Mennonite to Baptist.

    "But why do this?" you may ask, "Why spend what will be six years of doctoral work at Duke (coursework, languages, exams, dissertation, etc.) when you could have been 'doing ministry'?"

    "Well," I answer, "My hope is that I will be able to assist people in ministry for decades to come because of this time given to study."

    "But," you say, sputtering, "Ecclesiology? Ecclesiology?!"

    Good question. When I say "ecclesiology," I am referring to something that provides insight into very "practical" questions, in particular, the questions that pop up almost every day in ministry, "What are we supposed to be doing? How are we to prioritize and think about the infinite demands and needs in front of us?"

    Some people have a go-to answer, "What we need is . . ." and then they say, "excellence" or "the sacramental" or "to be missional" or "the spiritual disciplines" or "social justice" or "community." But most of us sense it must be all or at least many of those things. But that just puts us back to where we started: "How much of each of these things? How do we prioritize how we spend our time in ministry?"

    The immediate Sunday school answer is "Look in the Bible!" and that is largely right. The trick is to read it all, digest it all, and synthesize it all, and run our conclusions past others in the church to screen out idiosyncratic interpreterations that might accidentally lead us over the cliff into cult, scandal, and abuse. The good news: this is "theology" and we are all allowed to, even supposed to do it. We get to do it–reading, thinking, praying, talking! Woo-hoo! All Christians are to be theologians–that is, trying to understand what God is telling us. The bad news is it is a big task–it takes awhile to read the whole Bible, digest it, and make sense of it and mull over all of it with other Christians. The nice thing about academic theologians like Karl Barth is that they offer us their take, a suggested preliminary synthesis. The good theologians don't expect us to swallow it whole. They instead want us to be like the Bereans who examined the Scriptures every day to see if what they heard was true (Acts 17:11).

    Back to our practical question of "What do we do?!" Again, it is useful and primary to go to the Scriptures but as we do we might want to keep in mind Barth's suggestion that what we might find when we look in the Bible is an emphasis on the Holy Spirit as the primary actor, or the most important active participant. This conviction is suggested in Barth's titles for his sections on the church in the Church Dogmatics: "The Holy Spirit and the Gathering of the Church-Community," "The Holy Spirit and the Upbuilding of the Church-Community" and "The Holy Spirit and the Sending of the Church-Community." In other words, Barth thinks, as he reads the Scriptures and how others have read the Scriptures throughout church history, that it is pretty important to remember that what we do really pales in comparison to what the Spirit does. This is not to denigrate human action but just to keep it in perspective. It is the Holy Spirit who brings together the church, edifies it, and sends it. It is only on a subordinate level that we help. Now that might strike you as just nitpicky semantics. You reluctantly grant, "Ok, ok, I'll try to preface my statements, discipline my speech, with the phrase  'as far as the Holy Spirit moves' but I still don't see how that helps me know what to do!"

    But we have made some progress already modifying our practical "ecclesiology" question from "As church ministry people, what are we supposed to do given the infinite demands and options?!" to "I wonder what the Holy Spirit is doing. How is the Spirit gathering, upbuilding, and sending the people of God?" Again, you may suspect that this still does not get us anywhere. Worse, you are right to worry that someone might get the idea that we are talking about some sort of mystical "sensing" of what the Spirit is doing that will lead us to do all sorts of wacky stuff that our glands (which we thought were the Spirit) told us to do. No, instead, the Holy Spirit is not just doing random "feel good" things. As I mentioned, Barth organizes his comments around the Spirit's gathering, upbuilding, and sending of the church-community. It is useful to think of the Spirit of Jesus Christ doing what Jesus did in the Gospels with his disciples: gathering them (that is, calling them), upbuilding them (that is, teaching them), and sending them. Of course there is more content that fills out this gathering, upbuilding, sending outline: Barth goes on to emphasize that what, rather who, people are gathered to is Jesus Christ ("where two or three are gathered in my name"); that upbuilding has to do with service; and sending has to do with witness. Again, I am just sketching a few key themes in ecclesiology but I think this brief glimpse demonstrates that the muddle of possible tasks and initiatives in ministry might find some better, wiser, more biblical, formulation than the buzzwords listed above: excellence, sacramental, etc.

    My modest contention here is that whatever "practical" ministry questions you lob at ecclesiology, ecclesiology has some useful material to toss back. If you ask about affinity-based youth ministry vs. intergenerational worship services, ecclesiology will ask you to consider whether the sending is being undervalued for the sake of upbuilding or vice-versa. If you ask about a study that shows people like cathedral churches more than mall-like ones, ecclesiology will suggest reflection on what it means to witness. If you ask about: Godly Play vs. Group Publishing curriculum; church planting vs. megachurches; topical sermons vs. expository ones; Chris Tomlin vs. the Book of Common Prayer; short-term missions trips vs. microfinance; ecclesiology will suggest biblical texts and considerations, along with analogous situations in church history, all of which may help (if the Spirit wills!) bring truth and love to the situation. I look forward to, Lord willing, decades of those conversations–that the church might be built up–for the world.

    This is just a little informal splash of an explanation why I think ecclesiology is practical which also gets at why I am doing this theology doctorate.

    "What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants." (1 Cor 3:5). A good life that.

    There are lots of other posts about Karl Barth and Ecclesiology under those categories on the blog and in lots of tweets saved on the blog at the Twitter category. 

  • Why Twitter? and July 19 to August 10 2012 Tweets

    I tend to do most of my "blogging" on Twitter these days so thought I would post my recent tweets. My basic approach is to pass on stuff I find very interesting and helpful for other thoughtful Christian types like myself, mostly pastors and professors. I also link to places where I have made extensive comments on a blog post. I end up posting about 1 tweet per day. Having been on Twitter since 2008, that's is quite a few little tips and resources but mercifully they are brief (140 characters) so easily skimmable. See all my past tweets at my blog category Twitter.

    How did I come to use Twitter?

    I started experimenting with blogging in 2004 when Dan Brown's book The Da Vinci Code (2003) and Mel Gibson's movie The Passion of the Christ (2004) were the talk of the Christian community and the conversation began to get shift from Yahoo email distribution lists to blogs. I started blogging here with TypePad at my own url www.andyrowell.net in January 2006. I have always seen the blog as an overflow outlet for my "real" life as a pastor, professor, and then doctoral student–posting answers to frequently asked questions I receive and pointing people to great resources as the internet has developed over the years.

    I started also using Twitter in 2008. Before Twitter, I had subscribed to perhaps 300 blogs in my RSS reader Google Reader. It was much too onerous of course to look up everything everyone wrote (there were often 100 posts per day) so I did what I think everyone does now who uses an RSS feeder: skim through the titles of the posts. I would pick maybe 5 out of 100 to check out. Fewer still would I comment on, perhaps 1 a week. Besides occasionally finding written gems and finding kindred spirits online, the upside was keeping a basic pulse on what people were talking about through skimming the titles of the blog posts. It is sometimes perspective-enhancing to realize what you are up to is not the only thing going on.

    Twitter therefore was a very natural extension to skimming blog post titles in an RSS feeder. I follow around 200 people, who happily only tweet a couple times a day or less. They, like me, try to make their 140 characters count: sharing useful stuff. I enjoy their humor, wit, passion, and insight. In the old days, pastors and professors recommended keeping a file system for illustrations and resources. I think Twitter and blogs are something like that–marking but also sharing(!) good illustrations and resources.

    P. S. Many of my favorite people including my wife and most of my best friends have very little online interest: no blogs, Twitter, Facebook, online reading, etc. but they read books and are present with the people in front of them. If this is you, don't worry about tweeting or facebooking or blogging. Just keep doing your thing. You will find out anything you need to know by "just" talking to people.

    P. P. S. I would try not to worry about who follows you on Twitter and whether people are offended that you don't follow them. I would also try not to worry about how many people read or subscribe to or comment on your blog. For one thing, you won't get rich anyway, says Anne Lamott in Bird by Bird, the first book on writing you should read. Second, if you can write with the general aim that something you write might be helpful to someone out there, it really isn't about the numbers. Third, because writing itself is fulfilling in that you clarify your own thoughts and concerns by writing them down, there is eventually some joy and satisfaction in that. Anne Lamott is a little over the top on this topic, sometimes making creative expression sound almost as good as Jesus (which she sometimes clarifies is not the case), but she is on to something when she says things like: "creative expression . . . .can give a person almost everything that he or she has been searching for: enlivenment, peace, meaning, and the incalculable wealth of time spent quietly in beauty." And on Twitter, "Writing is about not being in the mood and doing it anyway. When I blow off my Writer, it injures my Being, my wild creative worker-bee soul." All of that to say, don't worry about your stats, just write, journal, blog, and tweet to get out your swirling thoughts and to possibly help people.

    Tweets

    The U.S. #cities getting smarter the fastest? You might be surprised… http://ow.ly/cSMni  via @NewGeography

    Blue Like Jazz is at Best Buy, Wal Mart and RedBox! Hope you like it!

    Want book review despair? To really do a review right, you'd have to read most of the sources cited therein and countless more that weren't.

    I commented about John Flett's Witness of God: recommending it & advising what to read in Barth first. @NextReformation http://nextreformation.com/?p=8827 

    @matthewamoser On my dissertation, I have written 86,576 words with about 1 chapter to go. Working on revising at the moment.

    Luke Powery (professor of homiletics at @ptseminary) Named New Dean of Duke Chapel @dukechapel succeeding Sam Wells http://today.duke.edu/2012/07/powery 

    Wild argument between theologians John Milbank, Stephen Long, Craig Keen, and others on Facebook about role of state. http://www.facebook.com/groups/136703486462365/permalink/176213279178052/ …

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