Church Leadership Conversations

  • Taking a position at Bethel Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota

    Just a note that I am accepting an offer to teach at Bethel Seminary in St. Paul, MN as Assistant Professor of Ministry Leadership (Tenure Track). We are planning to rent this first year to get to know the area. We are glad to have advice from people about schools, neighborhoods, renting, realtors, churches, etc. in the St. Paul area. Ryan will be in third grade and Jacob in kindergarten. Allie is 3. 

    I am very excited about this position. It is the courses I want to be teaching (leadership, mission, evangelism, discipleship, pastoral ministry) at an institution where I fit, with a fine faculty. With 861 students, it is the 16th largest seminary in the nation. It does a good job of stressing academic excellence, character formation, and leadership.
    The seminary is part of Bethel University, a strong undergraduate school with 3,467 undergraduates, which has has its own fine biblical and theological studies faculty.   
    We hear that the Twin Cities are a great place to live: arts, lakes, biking, etc.That is not to say we are excited about the winters of Minnesota but Amy is from Erie, PA and I'm from the Chicago area, so we will make it work.
    My plan is to defend my dissertation on Karl Barth's theology of the church for my Th.D. degree from Duke in August but that means I have a lot of revising to do in the next few weeks. 
    Warm greetings to all,

    Andy

  • The rise of the non-M.Div. theological masters degree ATS Enrollment 1999-2012

      TABLE
    2.10 and 2.11 HEAD COUNT and FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT ENROLLMENT BY DEGREE
    CATEGORY AND PROGRAM
      ALL MEMBER SCHOOLS                      
                                 
      1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
    Basic
    Ministerial Leadership MDiv
                         
    HC 29842 30438 31143 32005 33287 34,234 34,505 34,935 34,120 33,319 32,773 32,850 32,369 32,235
    FTE 22782 23784 24175 24065 25012 26,250 26,595 25,938 25,674 24,231 24,400 24,386 24,411 23,996
                                 
    Basic
    Ministerial Leadership Non-MDiv
                       
    HC 7632 8443 7882 8690 9338 10,529 11,018 11,030 11,031 11,063 11,104 11,225 10,932 11,438
    FTE 5421 6032 5516 5968 6519 6,575 6,772 6,342 6,407 6,272 6,373 6,364 6,400 6,614
                                 
    General
    Theological Studies
                           
    HC 7015 7509 7666 7560 7728 9,382 9,831 9,844 9,598 9,226 9,049 9,266 8,843 8,788
    FTE 4685 5099 5045 5138 5229 5,589 5,610 5,649 5,594 5,434 5,383 5,482 5,332 5,265

     

     

    Annual
    Data Tables/FactBooks 
    http://www.ats.edu/resources/pages/annualdatatablesfactbooks.aspx
    The Association of
    Theological Schools in the United States and Canada
    Collated by Andrew D. Rowell,
    March 2013

     

     
    Download Excel document of Rise of the non-MDiv – ATS Enrollment 1999-2012

    Comments: Note that MDiv and General Theological Studies enrollment maxed out in 2005 and 2006, while non-MDiv masters degree Head Count hit an all time high in 2012. I started my blog in January 2006–I think there was indeed less "felt need" for a theological education once the internet boomed with blogs and podcasts from seminary professors and church leaders.

    Note: I did this research for a separate project but thought I would share it here for others' benefit.

    See also my post: 

    D.Min. enrollment hit an all-time high in 2012

     

     

  • D.Min. enrollment hit an all-time high in 2012

     

     

    Year 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997
    ATS 6459 6462 6741 6934 7274 7610 7423 7844 7923 7968
                         
      1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
      8373 8425 8322 8436 8827 8920 9216 9045 9151 9066
                         
      2008 2009 2010 2011 2012          
      9183 9077 9063 9047 9335          
                         
                         
                         
                         
    Annual
    Data Tables/FactBooks 
               
    http://www.ats.edu/resources/pages/annualdatatablesfactbooks.aspx
    The
    Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada
    Collated
    by Andrew D. Rowell, April 2013
             

     
    Download Excel document of ATS DMin Enrollment 1988-2012

    Comments: Why are there so many people today in Doctor of Ministry programs?

     

    5 reasons why there are so many people doing D.Min. programs
    today

    1. A Ph.D. is too painful and a D.Min. is just right. I think it is
    too expensive, long, and painful to get a Ph.D. for most people. The average
    time for a Duke Ph.D. in Religion is 5.8
    years
     and that is one of the very best stipends and student-friendly
    programs anywhere. And, even if you survive for 6 years living on $20,000 a year
    (at best), it is very difficult to get a job. A D.Min. is not a Ph.D. or Th.D.
    but does demonstrate initiative, a zeal to learn, and perseverance. 

    2. A D.Min. is a way of carving out space to learn. Yes, there are
    enormous resources available on the web for pastors and many superb books to
    read but it is of course very difficult to find time to get away from the daily
    hectic routine and learn. Some ministry leaders are capable of getting away
    enough to cultivate vision, assess themselves, even write books, but for many
    ministry leaders, a D.Min. program (with the discipline of coursework and time
    away) is ideal for carving out time to study, learn, and find solace and
    friendship with other pastors.

    3. Sometimes churches help with the cost. Sometimes churches will
    share some of the cost of the D.Min. program knowing that it benefits them to
    have a more balanced, rejuvenated, learning pastor. However, there are some
    churches who have had their clergy leave to a larger church after getting a
    D.Min. so they feel resentful toward what they paid. The church should structure
    their payments knowing that a pastor may leave because of course this can happen
    at any time for any reason; They may for example pay 1/2 of tuition right away
    but gradually pay for the whole thing if the pastor stays for 5 years after
    completing the D.Min.program. (There are a number of costs also for D.Min.
    programs that are away from home such as plane tickets and housing for intense
    courses but these trips are so rich-in-experience that few seem to complain
    about the costs).

    4. D.Min. programs are getting better with the web. Rather than just
    reading at home by yourself before the intensive courses on campus, with online
    course components, ministry leaders can now bond, share, empathize, and learn
    online with other pastors in their class before meeting.

    5. D.Min. programs have tracks for all sorts of specializations. You
    can do a D.Min. in spiritual formation, executive leadership, marriage and
    family counseling, preaching, leading parachurch organizations, etc. 

     

    Two things to ask about prospective D.Min.
    programs 

    1. Ask whether you have the opportunity to study with regular seminary
    faculty or just adjuncts. 
    What is odd is that some D.Min. programs use
    adjuncts almost exclusively so that a student may have very little interaction
    with the regular faculty from the school. It is cheaper for the seminary that
    way. But you have to wonder as a DMin student if you are getting a first class
    education from that seminary with all adjuncts. Some seminaries justify this as
    "The regular residential seminary faculty don't know anything about ministry so
    it is good they don't teach in the D.Min. program!" But it would be better if
    regular seminary faculty could invest in D.Min. students and learn from
    them. 

    2. Beware of the tendency to get stalled during the dissertation-writing
    phase. 
    The other thing to note is that many students get stalled after
    coursework writing their "project" or "dissertation" or "thesis." A program
    should have a workable template which makes completing the dissertation fairly
    straightforward but should also allow room for creative, ambitious projects for
    those highly motivated and capable for pulling them off. Ask about how they help
    students finish their projects in a timely way.

     

     

     

    Note: I did this research for a separate project but thought I would share it here for others' benefit.

    See also my posts:

    The rise of the non-M.Div. theological masters degree ATS Enrollment 1999-2012

    and 

    Largest D.Min. Programs 2012, 2011, 1988