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Sept 19-20 What issues evangelicals care about

Post author By Andy Rowell
Post date September 20, 2019

Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux

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It seems low to me as well. But another way to read that finding is also that of all those issues, white evangelicals were most likely to say abortion/reproductive rights was a dealbreaker. 14% for abortion, 12% for immigration, less than 10% for everything else.

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Ryan Burge

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Just another data point from the 2016 CCES. White evangelicals cared the most about national security, jobs, and corruption. Abortion is about 10th out of 15 issues. Gay marriage was dead last. religioninpublic.blog/2018/09/10/ret

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Samuel Perry

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Sep 19

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I always show my students this one from Pew, taken summer before the election. For all the talk about abortion & supreme court justices, abortion didn't even crack the top 10 for white evangelicals in terms of "very important" issues determining their presidential vote.

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Jesse Curtis

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Sep 19

Abortion: a deal-breaker for 14% of white evangelicals. a rhetorical tool for 100% of white evangelicals when defending their Trump vote.

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Malcolm Gladwell’s new book Talking to Strangers focuses on sin though he does not call it that

Post author By Andy Rowell
Post date September 18, 2019

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As usual, Malcolm @Gladwell's latest book "Talking to Strangers: What We Should Know About the People We Don't Know" (Sept 10, 2019) is stimulating in its stories and commentary. But this is a dark one: sexual abuse, suicide, abuse by police, scams, alcohol, rape, and torture. Gladwell is a story-teller, popularizer, opinion columnist, pundit, reporter, writer, commentator, searcher for truth. I think his tone invites pushback, further research, and correction. He respects academics and researchers. I think he is a force for good. I have read all his books and listened to all of his Revisionist History podcast episodes. I have very occasionally been disappointed in his sloppiness and flippancy, but more often his curiosity, love for learning, joy, moral seriousness, and humanity have given me much joy. The "Talking to Strangers" audiobook is better than normal audiobooks in that he has used recordings of quotes when possible. I thought this critique of Gladwell's work back in Oct 2013 was fair.
But I think he has matured since then—perhaps due to his return to Christianity while writing David and Goliath, which he shared publicly that month.
@spulliam

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This review out last week of "Talking to Strangers" is also fair:
Yes, I'm not sure the book has an overall thesis, except that sin is real. And yes, the stat about poets committing suicide frequently is thin but it is not important to Gladwell's argument. (theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/…)

abortion

Making abortion rare. Reducing the number of abortions.

Post author By Andy Rowell
Post date September 18, 2019

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As study after global study has shown, "pro-life" limiting access to abortion is not a significant factor in reducing the number of abortions.

The main factor that reduces the number of abortions is making contraceptives easily accessible, which often "pro-life" people oppose.

kate shellnutt@kateshellnutt

The abortion rate dropped in Ohio by 27% and in Texas by 30%, and by similar amounts in states that protected abortion access, including California, Hawaii and New Hampshire https://apnews.com/7e45fe6f70cf45f1823a45ef9ad2187c …

Number of abortions in US falls to lowest since 1973

NEW YORK (AP) — The number and rate of abortions across the United States have plunged to their lowest levels since the procedure became legal nationwide in 1973, according to new figures released…

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· Aug 15, 2019

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Rev. A.J. Dudek "If Donald Trump will help save a couple million babies, that's a good thing. My vote has to align with my view of God's word — I should care for the baby in the womb." Likely, millions more abortions occurred in the United States because Trump was elected.

Andy Rowell@AndyRowell

"increasing access to highly effective methods of contraception (and thus preventing unintended pregnancies) is a more effective way to reduce abortion rates" [than restricting access to contraception]. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2019/07/29/reducing-access-to-contraception-wont-reduce-the-abortion-rate/ …

Reducing access to contraception won’t reduce the abortion rate

Increasing access to highly effective methods of contraception (and thus preventing unintended pregnancies) is a more effective way to reduce abortion rates.

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"1.4 percent of all abortions came after 21 weeks …
None of these Democrats [candidates for president] is explicitly saying, 'I support allowing third-trimester [28-40 weeks] abortions' — and, in fact, they seem to be trying hard to avoid doing so." (washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/…)

Reference:
Blake, Aaron. "Democrats’ leftward shift on third-trimester abortion." The Washington Post (Online), Sep 11 2019. This is also correct.

Daniel Grossman:
“Not all restrictions on abortion are the same — some create a minor obstacle that most patients overcome, while others result in the closure of large-volume providers, making it impossible for some to access care.”

Reference:
Belluck, Pam. "America’s Abortion Rate Has Dropped to Its Lowest Ever." New York Times (Online), Sep 18 2019. "43 states prohibit some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy.
– 22 states ban abortion between 13 and 24 weeks LMP (Last menstrual period).
– 20 states impose a ban at 24-28 weeks .
– 1 state imposes a ban … 25 weeks LMP onward" (guttmacher.org/state-policy/e…)

There is a some consensus about late term abortion:
– 43 of 50 states ban abortion between 13-25 weeks.
– Only 1.3% of abortions occur after 21 weeks.
– Third trimester abortion would be (28-40 weeks).
– Democratic presidential candidates are talking in generalities. See also:

for an argument that pro-life persuasion regarding the immorality of abortion and pro-life restrictions have reduced US abortion rate. But I am thinking about rates of abortion in different countries and the main factor is contraceptive access.