Author: Andy Rowell

  • Bad shepherd teases Baby Jesus

    Ryan: "The bad shepherd calls Jesus another name–not Baby Jesus."

    Mommy: "What does he call him?"

    Ryan: "The bad shepherd calls him Baby Moses–and that's not good.  He's bad."

  • 60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum

    What is a church?  Allow me in this post to introduce you to three phrases:

    esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks of the church)

    bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church)

    plene notae ecclesiae (full marks of the church)

    My thesis is that there are substantive differences along the ecclesiological spectrum regarding the first category–the esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks of the church) but that there is ecumenical potential–that is their possibility for broad consensus–around the second and third categories.

    All Christians believe that a church should be "one holy catholic and apostolic" as the Nicene Creed says.  All Christians believe a community needs a few "essential marks of the church" (esse notae ecclesiae) to be "a church."  Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox require structural identification with what they perceive to be "the Church" that traces its identity back to the apostles through apostolic succession.  The Reformers are famous for calling for two marks: "the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered."  Others suggest "a church" is any group that gathers in the name of Jesus:  "For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them" (Matthew 18:20).  

    I have made a list below of lots of theologians and I have guessed where they might fall on the ecclesiological spectrum.  The ones at the top would have more formal requirements for what constitutes "a church."  The ones at the bottom would consider a community to be "a church" with relatively few formal requirements. 

    All believe that their version of formal requirements and flexibility best conform to the New Testament parameters.  The ones at the bottom of the list with fewer formal requirements might say that their churches are actually "stricter" in some respects.  Thus, I labeled the list "high church" to "low church" not "very strict" to "less strict."

    Though these theologians would disagree strongly about what is essential, they would all agree that "a church" should grow closer to what it is supposed to be–developing more bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church) and they all aspire to have the plene notae ecclesiae (the full marks of the church).  Perhaps the latter two areas are where we can find the most ecumenical consensus. 

    In my papers on the missional ecclesiologies of Anglican and current Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams and the the Mennonite ethicist (1927-1997) John Howard Yoder, I reflect on the central practices in their ecclesiologies.  For Williams, these are esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks).  Yoder's five practices in Body Politics are bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church).

    The four practices I draw from Williams are these:

    (1) moral discernment oriented by martyrdom (drawn mostly from his book Why Study the Past?)

    (2) participation in the sacraments

    (3) standing under the authority of Scripture

    (4) communicating the Good News drawn from a letter. 

    For the latter three practices see, Williams's “Archbishop of Canterbury's Advent Letter,” The Anglican Communion Official Website (14 December 2007). 

    Williams hoped that the Anglican Communion would rally around these constitutive practices–esse notae

    On the other hand, John Howard Yoder describes well the thriving church–bene notae.
    (1) Binding and Loosing / reconciling dialogue
    (2) Disciples Break Bread Together / Eucharist
    (3) Baptism and the New Humanity / Baptism
    (4) The Fullness of Christ / Multiplicity of gifts
    (5) The Rule of Paul / Open meeting

    Yoder does not intend to be comprehensive in his list–he calls these "sample" practices–and therefore, even though they are inspiring, they do not constitute a full ecclesiological foundation (as I argue in my paper).

    If you are interested in this topic, you will want to read Miroslav Volf's book After Our Likeness: The Church As the Image of the Trinity. Volf engages Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) and John Zizioulas–both of whom are near the top of the list–over the issue of esse notae.  Volf argues that a community of people is "a church" if they "gather in the name of Jesus" and he adds a few more esse notae.  Thus, he is pretty close to the bottom of the list.  He is arguing that being "at the bottom of the list"–having a free church theology–can be theologically legitimate.

    Therefore, as we think about ecclesiological differences with others, I think it is worth reflecting on not only our differences as evident on the spectrum below, but also about the possibility of common purposes in the bene and plene notae.

     

    Disclaimer: I have not read books by all of these people and do not know all of their ecclesiologies that well.  I was just trying to sketch out what I was thinking.  I thought my readers could help me fix the list.

    I have put a little bit more about notae (marks) below the list.

    60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum (from high church to low church)

    High church: significant formal requirement for what constitutes "a church"

    1. Council of Trent
    2. Thomas Aquinas
    3. Pope Benedict XVI – Roman Catholic
    4. Henri de Lubac – RC
    5. William T. Cavanaugh – author of Torture and Eucharist
    6. Vincent J. Miller – Roman Catholic and author of Consuming Religion
    7. Pope John Paul II – RC
    8. Hans Urs von Balthasar
    9. Hans Küng – RC
    10. John Zizoulas – Eastern Orthodox
    11. Augustine
    12. Martin Luther
    13. John Calvin
    14. John Milbank – Anglo-Catholic
    15. John Wesley
    16. Oliver O'Donovan – Anglican
    17. N.T Wright – Anglican
    18. Dietrich Bonhoeffer – Lutheran
    19. Stanley Hauerwas – United Methodist
    20. Rowan Williams – Anglican
    21. Craig Van Gelder – Lutheran
    22. Patrick Keifert – Lutheran
    23. Søren Kierkegaard – Reformed
    24. Eugene Peterson – PCUSA
    25. Lesslie Newbigin – Reformed
    26. Karl Barth – Reformed
    27. Mark Driscoll – conservative Reformed
    28. Jürgen Moltmann – Reformed
    29. T.F. Torrance – Reformed
    30. Walter Brueggemann – Reformed
    31. Tim Keller – PCA
    32. Darrell Guder – Reformed
    33. John Piper – Reformed Baptist
    34. Reinhold Niebuhr – Congregational
    35. H. Richard Niebuhr – Congregational
    36. David Bosch – Reformed
    37. Wolfhart Pannenberg
    38. Richard Hays – UM
    39. Len Sweet – United Methodist
    40. James Dunn – UM
    41. Miroslav Volf – Episcopal and Pentecostal, author of After Our Likeness
    42. Scot McKnight – Evangelical Covenant
    43. Andrew Jones – Tall Skinny Kiwi
    44. Stan Grenz – Baptist
    45. Rick Warren – SBC
    46. Ed Stetzer – SBC
    47. Dan Kimball
    48. Menno Simons
    49. John Howard Yoder – Mennonite
    50. FF Bruce – Plymouth Brethren
    51. Bill Hybels – evangelical
    52. Andy Stanley – evangelical
    53. Rob Bell – evangelical
    54. David Fitch – author of The Great Giveaway
    55. Tony Jones
    56. Doug Pagitt
    57. Ryan Bolger – author of Emerging Churches
    58. Eddie Gibbs
    59. John Wimber – Vineyard founder
    60. Peter Rollins
    61. Alan Hirsch and Michael Frost – authors of The Shaping of Things to Come.
    62. Frank Viola – author of Reimaging Church
    63. Donald McGavran and Peter C. Wagner – founders of the "Church Growth Movement."
    64. George Barna – author of Revolution
    65. George Fox – Quaker, Society of Friends

    Low church: fewer formal marks of what is needed to be called "a church"

    The language of notae (marks) which I have used here is used differently by different theologians.  Some believe "a church" has certain beliefs, others believe a church has certain traits, others believe a church has a certain structure, others believe it has certain practices.   

    The notae ecclesiae can be traced at least back to the Lutheran Church’s Augsburg Confession (1530) written by Philipp Melanchthon and Martin Luther.

    The Church is the congregation of saints, in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered. And to the true unity of the Church it is enough to agree concerning the doctrine of the Gospel and the administration of the Sacraments.[1]

    A revised version of the Augsburg Confession called the Variata, was later signed by John Calvin in 1540. Calvin’s words in The Institutes of the Christian Religion (1536, 1559) are quite similar to the Lutheran document.

    The marks of the church and our application of them to judgment: Hence the form of the Church appears and stands forth conspicuous to our view. Wherever we see the word of God sincerely preached and heard, wherever we see the sacraments administered according to the institution of Christ, there we cannot have any doubt that the Church of God has some existence.[2]

    Both name the proper preaching of the word and the proper administration of the sacraments as the crucial characteristics of a church.

    John Howard Yoder develops four additional marks suggested by Menno Simons in the 1540’s: (1) holy living, (2) brotherly love, (3) unreserved testimony, and (4) suffering.[3]

     


    [1] The Augsburg Confession, article 7 (The Book of Concord). Cited 9 July 2008. Online: http://www.bookofconcord.org/augsburgconfession.html#article7

    [2] John Calvin, The Institutes of the Christian Religion (ed. John T. McNeill; trans. Ford Lewis Battles; 2 vols.; LCC; Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1960), IV, 1, 9. Cited 9 July 2008. Online: http://www.reformed.org/books/institutes/books/book4/bk4ch01.html#nine.htm

    [3] John Howard Yoder, “A People in the World,” The Royal Priesthood, 77-89.

  • Following Dan Kimball’s Missional vs. Megachurch conversation

    Dan Kimball provoked a response with his post at Christianity Today's Leadership Journal blog.  Here is some of the response in chronological order.  You can put in the comments any posts I have missed but put "reaction" comments on one of the other blogs as I intend this post just to be an index.

    December 2, 2008

    Dan Kimball's Missional Misgivings

    Small, indigenous churches are getting lots of attention, but where's the fruit?

    Dan is a pastor and author of Emerging Church and They Like Jesus, But Not the Church

    Brother Maynard of Winnipeg, Manitoba responded to Dan's article at:

    Missional Misgivings, or Missional Misunderstandings?


    December 4, 2008

    Megachurch Misinformation

    Mega or missional? The stats say both are doing well.

    by Andy Rowell

    See also at my blog:

    The research behind my Out of Ur post: Megachurch Misinformation

    David Fitch, a pastor and professor at Northern Seminary, responded to Dan's original article at:

    THREE QUESTIONS FOR THE ATTRACTIONAL PRACTICIONERS WHO QUESTION THE FRUIT OF MISSIONAL: A Response to Dan Kimball

    Erika Haub, a Fuller Seminary grad and lives in LA, also responded:

    “The church that came to me”

    Julie Clawson, a Wheaton College grad and coordinator of the Emerging Women blog, also responded

    Missional Effectiveness

    Dan Kimball responded in the comments of the original article:

    Comments 31 and 34

    and Dan wrote the same comment and clarification at Brother Maynard and David Fitch's blog.


    December 5, 2008

    Tim Keller, pastor Church of the Redeemer in NYC with 4017 attendance according to the Hartford megachurch database and author of the #1 bestselling apologetics book at Amazon.com The Reason for God, then also commented at David Fitch's blog. 

    Jonny Baker over in London, UK also noted the exchange.

    when did christianity become a popularity contest?

    a rant from julie clawson on missional effectiveness

    The Out of Ur posted a video and noted that its most recent issue issue of Leadership Journal Fall 2008 was all about the missional conversation. 

    Defining "Missional"

    Michael Frost clarifies and increasingly unclear word.

    Scot McKnight, professor at North Park puts in his take at his blog:

    Weekly Meanderings

    Len Hjalmarson – NextReformation notes the the discussion.

    Missional vs Mega.. again

    Brother Maynard responded again:

    The Missional/Attractional Divide: Dan Kimball Unpolarized


    December 6, 2008

    I posted 60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum


    December 8, 2008

    David Fitch and Tim Keller posted additional comments at Fitch's blog

    Out of Ur posted: Tim Keller Weighs in on Missional Debate

    Fitch posted a new post: The Attractional/Missional Debate Won't Stop: Three Take-Aways

    Bill Kinnon: Keller on Fitch on Kimball on Missional Growth?

    Meanwhile, Len Hjalmarson reviewed ReJesus by Alan Hirsch and Michael Frost.  Hirsch responded in the comments a dialogue commenced. 

    Jamie Arpin-Ricci: Interview With Michael Frost about ReJesus: A Wild Messiah for a Missional Church

    December 11

    Alan Hirsch Responds to Kimball's "Missional Misgivings"

    David Fitch, Scot McKnight, Alan Hirsch and Dan Kimball all left comments

    December 12

    Defining Missional
    The word is everywhere, but where did it come from and what does it really mean?
    Alan Hirsch | posted 12/12/2008

    From the fall issue of Leadership Journal

    Brian Russell

    and Jonny Baker

    note the article.

    Andrew Jones adds his comments at:

    Missional and Alan Hirsch

    Neil Cole series with lots of comments by Dan Kimball

    Misguided
    Misgivings 1: A Response to Dan Kimball’s Editorial comments

    Misguided
    Misgivings 2: The Walmart Effect

    Misguided
    Misgivings 3: Bigger isn’t Better

    Misguided
    Misgivings 4: Do the math

    Misguided
    Misgivings 5: A cost too high

    Misguided
    Misgivings 6: Here is some fruit…

    December 16

    Out of Ur: Missional vs. Attractional: Debating the Research – a post by Andy Rowell and the editors of Leadership Journal

    See also my post:

    The research behind my post at Out of Ur: Missional vs. Attractional: Debating the Research

    Here I clarify some of the research that gets discussed in the Out of Ur post.  

    December 17

    Brad Brisco at the Missional Church Network

    Lesslie Newbigin and the GOCN