Church Leadership Conversations

  • Jürgen Moltmann and Stanley Hauerwas Audio Recordings from Society for Pentecostal Studies and the Wesleyan Theological Society joint meeting

    I attended the Society for Pentecostal Studies and the Wesleyan Theological Society 3rd Joint Meeting at Duke Divinity School, March 13-15, 2008.

    I recorded three of the sessions with my little recorder.  They are not the best recordings, but if you are highly interested, I assume you will still be grateful.  If you have questions about listening to MP3's, see below.   

    The Gospel and Peace — A Pentecostal-Wesleyan-Quaker-Baptist Conversation.mp3

    Here is the WMA version which is probably clearer because it is the original version. 

    2 hr. 6 min session, 144 MB size

    BILATERAL AND MULTILATERAL DIALOGUES

    Thursday, March 13, 2008 SESSION 2

    Paul Alexander, Azusa Pacific University, Chair
    Theme: "The Gospel and Peace: A Pentecostal-Wesleyan-Quaker-Baptist Conversation"
    Stanley Hauerwas, Duke Divinity School, Panelist
    Ann Riggs, National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA, Panelist. (Dr. Riggs is now Adjunct Faculty at the Earlham School of Religion.)
    Glen Stassen, Fuller Theological Seminary, Panelist
    William C. Turner, Duke Divinity School, Panelist

    Jürgen Moltmann – Sighs, Signs, and Significance.mp3

    55 min lecture, 63 MB size

    Thursday, March 13, 2008
    OPENING PLENARY SESSION 1
    Speaker: Professor Dr. Jürgen Moltmann, Tübingen University
    Sighs, Signs, and Significance: A Theological Hermeneutics of Nature

    Jürgen Moltmann – Darwin and the Interpretation of Natural Theology.mp3

    1 hr 28 min lecture and panel, 100 MB size

    Friday, March 14, 2008
    PLENARY SESSION 3: PANEL
    Professor Dr. Jürgen Moltmann, Tübingen University, Presenter "Darwin, Theology, and Culture"
    Ellen Davis, Duke Divinity School, Respondent
    Frederick L. Ware, Howard Divinity School, Respondent. (Dr. Ware writes, "I am attaching  my full written response to Professor Moltmann.  My
    oral presentation does not follow verbatim the written text I prepared
    for the plenary session.  Professor Moltmann has a copy of my written
    text." Download Ware_Response_to_Moltmann_Theology_of_Nature_Without_Moral_Realism.pdf)
    Barry Callen, Anderson University, Respondent

    Note to those interested in Moltmann:

    Tony Jones has alerted me to the Jürgen Moltmann Yahoo Group which you would be free to join.

    Instructions for playing MP3's:

    I have given you MP3's which play on any computer.  You just right
    click on it and click "Save Link As . . ." or "Save Target As . . ."
    and you can save it
    to your desktop (and it will be on your computer and you can listen to
    it whenever you want).  If you have an MP3 player, you just plug it in to
    your computer like a memory stick and move the MP3's from your computer
    to your player. 

    More Duke Divinity School Audio Recordings:

    There are more Duke Divinity School audio recordings at iTunes U / Duke / Religion / Divinity School.
    (This link will only work if you have iTunes, a free downloadable
    program
    , installed on your computer).   See especially the talks by
    Wendell Berry, Stanley Hauerwas and Ellen Davis at "Our Daily Bread 2007: 2007 Convocation and Pastor's School" (iTunes link).  See also the talks by Dale C. Allison Jr., from Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, on "The Historical Jesus and the Theological Jesus" (iTunes link).

    There are also some MP3's available at the Duke Divinity School Socratic Club blog.  See April 2008.  For example, one post  "Socratic Audio Files" has 2008 talks by Allen Verhey on Richard Niebuhr, Amy Laura Hall on the Yale School (George Lindbeck, etc.), Curtis Freeman on Karl Barth, Mary McClintock Fulkerson on Friedrich Schleiermacher, Stanley Hauerwas reading from his memoirs, and Richard Hays on biblical studies at Duke Divinity School.   These talks explore various influences on the strain of theology found at Duke Divinity School. 

    In the past, I have greatly appreciated it when people have recorded lectures and then posted them on the web.  I am keenly aware that it is not always possible to fly across the country to go to that conference you wanted to attend.  I posted recordings from the SBL and AAR meetings in November and the feedback from both presenters and listeners was 100% positive.

    Links:

    Collin Hansen's "Theology in the News" web only Christianity Today article links to this post.  He writes,

    The period following Lent is the season for conferences. The Wesleyan
    Theological Society joined with the Society for Pentecostal Studies at
    Duke University in March for a conference called "Sighs, Signs, and Significance: Pentecostal and Wesleyan Explorations of Science and Creation."
    More than 600 scholars attended. Jürgen Moltmann delivered the keynote
    address, which explored the harmony between revealed Scripture and the
    natural world. Andy Rowell has posted audio.

  • My List of 80 Church Leadership Blogs I am watching

    Here are the blogs I am currently watching.  I am using the free
    Google Reader as my feedcatcher on
    my free iGoogle page which I use as my home page.  This is the
    sequel to my post My List of
    the 70 Best Church Leadership Blogs
    from February 2007.  I explained
    my choices in that post.  This list is totally subjective.  Browse through and see if anything is interesting.  Here is the link if you want to see the newest posts from these 80 Church Leadership blogs  – there is also a link there to get you started with Google Reader and my feed from the 80 blogs.  Feel free to list your
    blog or others you recommend in the comments. 

    Note to blog writers:  Because I subscribe to lots of blogs, I usually only read the titles of posts and if they don’t grab me, I skip them.  So take care how you title.  If the title isn’t clear, I do not know the subject of the post and will probably ignore it.  So be informative about the content of the post in the title!    


  • How to meet with your supervisor

    The problem: You work at a church but you do not meet regularly with your supervisor or your meetings with your supervisor are ineffective. 

    A study has shown that liking one's supervisor is the number one factor related to job satisfaction.  You can put up with a lot if you like your immediate supervisor.  Here is the summary quote from the book:

    "The talented employee may join a company because of its charismatic
    leaders, its generous benefits, and its world class training programs, but
    how long that employee stays and how productive they are while they are
    there is determined by their relationship with their immediate
    supervisor"
    (Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman, First Break All the Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers Do Differently. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1999, pp. 11-12). 

    If your satisfaction and fruitfulness depend largely on your relationship with your supervisor, it is pretty important that you have good meetings with them. 

    Below I have listed two main points about meeting with your supervisor. 

    1. Ask to meet with your supervisor for 1 hour once every two weeks or 1/2 hour once per week.  The "open door policy" (My door is always open) isn't concrete enough and either wastes too much time or doesn't provide enough meaningful interaction.  Conscientious followers often don't want to waste the supervisor's time so they wait to ask questions until a problem has grown into a full-blown mess.  Instead set up a time to meet regularly. 

    Jim Collins writes,

    "If you have the right people on the bus, the problem of how to
    motivate and manage people largely goes away.  The right people don't
    need to be tightly managed or fired up; they will be self-motivated by
    the inner drive to produce the best results and to be part of creating
    something great" (Jim Collins, Good to Great. New York: HarperCollins, 2001, p. 42).

    As a good follower / employee / church leader, you do not need help on every single task, but you do need to be pointed in the right direction.  If you are working 40-50 hours per week, having a 1/2 hour of direction is not too much to ask and makes a lot of sense.      

    2. Have a numbered agenda of 5-10 questions that you wish to raise with your supervisor.  Provide the supervisor with a copy when you begin the meeting.  These items should include things you feel the supervisor should know, questions you have related to current projects you are working on, and hopefully something you can affirm your supervisor about.   Save most of your questions for that meeting rather than sending your supervisor a million emails throughout the week.  My supervisor would acknowledge each question and reflect more deeply on the questions he felt were most important or he was able to answer. 

    The list of questions emphasizes that you are prepared and that you value the person's time.  It also gives them an idea of the issues that are on your mind.  They need not all be strategic, task-oriented issues.  You can also ask the person questions that are not urgent but are important.  Here's a sample one I remember asking a mentor: "what do you do when you hear that someone from the congregation has died – can you walk me through that?"

    Perry Noble, pastor of NewSpring Church, has an excellent post today entitled:My Five Rules For Meeting With A Mentor. My comments above particularly resonate with this quote from Perry's post:

    I remember John Maxwell saying to me once, “I will mentor you, but you
    have to ask the questions. I am not preparing a lesson for you…YOU
    guide this meeting. If you want to know something–ASK. If you don’t ask
    anything then we don’t really have anything to talk about.”

    Conclusion:

    David Swanson notes the importance of meeting with mentors for your own productivity and satisfaction. 

    "Those of us who itch for change are faced with the fact that, in most
    cases, it is the senior leadership’s prerogative to initiate those
    changes. This can be a frustrating reality for a young leader. Our
    options are to give up on large-scale change, disconnect from the
    church to attempt our own new thing, or drink a lot of coffee. Tea
    works too.

    A couple of years into my time as an associate pastor I began
    scheduling regular breakfasts, afternoon coffee breaks, and evening
    conversations with some of our church’s Boomer leaders. These
    conversations were agenda-free. It was a chance to talk about past
    experiences, current challenges, and future possibilities for our
    church. The only measure of success was that coffee was consumed and
    good conversation was had.

    Over time, as relationships developed, it became apparent that my
    ministry ideas were being met with more acceptance. Some of my new
    ideas even became conversation topics among our older leaders. It was
    deeply satisfying to participate in a strategic vision for the church
    that had begun as a conversation over coffee. Don’t underestimate the
    importance of investing in relationships" (Leadership Journal's blog Out of Ur Disarming the Boomers (Part 2) from January 17, 2008).

    As the book title Never Eat Alone implies, relationships are key for getting things done both in the business world and in the church. 

    Examples

    I have listed a couple of examples below of agendas I made before meeting with mentors and supervisors. 

    Example 1: Agenda for meeting with a senior pastor of a neighboring church that I had never met  in 2004.  I had scheduled the meeting to learn from him.

    • Where are you from? When did you start pastoring? What did you do before that?
    • What do you feel is going well at _________ Church?
    • What are the challenges?
    • Since we share the same neighborhood, what are the neighborhood issues for you all like parking, etc.?
    • How has your seminary experience prepared you for ministry?
    • Why the “team leader” title?
    • What “direction” is your church moving in?   

    Example 2: Here is another example of a weekly meeting from 2002 with my supervisor (which I handed him a copy of)

    1. How are you? 
    2. Additional agenda items?
    3. I am beginning Family Camp planning for next year this week.  Do you have any advice?
    4. I received an email from D.T. about his concern about incorporating new people into worship teams.  Comments?
    5. We are furthering Ensemble Leaders Song Selection Criteria.  Is that proceeding well in your opinion?
    6. Family Carol Service.  We are ordering from a script to adapt (19.99-24.99 US) Group Publishing.  Just wanted you to know.   
    7. We have received two estimates on IT service maintenance. 
    8. I am thankful to G.R. for his major assistance these last few weeks.
    9. I tried a new strategy last week for announcements and it seemed to go well.   Input?
    10. J.S. is no longer attending our church.  He is attending ________ Church.   
    11. Prayer item: I need ________. 
    12. K.V. will be back visiting January 22.