Category: Catalyst Conference

  • Free Churches and Liturgical Churches: Behind the Numbers

    My post is up at Christianity Today's Leadership Journal Out of Ur blog:

    Catalyst, Liturgy, and Innovation What liturgical church leaders and the Catalyst Conference can learn from each other.

    It has also been published in a slightly different form at Duke Divinity School's Faith & Leadership website on the Call & Response blog:

    What Liturgical and Free Church leaders can learn from each other.

    Make your comments there.  Thanks.  


    Free Churches and Liturgical Churches: Behind the Numbers

    The first two sentences in the post attempt to show that there is a significant split in the United States between liturgical churches and free churches. 

    According to data from the National Congregations Study (2006-2007), 38%
    of people in the United States associate themselves with
    liturgical
    churches (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal, etc.)
    ; while 46%
    associate themselves with
    free churches (Baptist, Pentecostal,
    non-denominational, etc.).
    The 14% of people associated with Methodist
    and Reformed/Presbyterian churches
    sit atop this watershed—some sliding
    down the liturgical slope, others down the free church slope.

    The data I draw from in these sentences is from the following chart.  I have marked the liturgical numbers yellow, free church numbers pink and Reformed/Methodist green.

    Explore the Data: Wave 2 – 2006/07


    Denomination
    Response Frequency Percent Valid Percent Cumulative Percent
    ROMAN CATHOLIC 421 27.9 27.9        
    BAPTIST 312 20.7 20.7 48.7
    METHODIST 136 9.1 9.1 57.7
    LUTHERAN 77 5.1 5.1 62.9
    PRESBYTERIAN OR REFORMED 68 4.5 4.5 67.3
    PENTECOSTAL 84 5.6 5.6 73.0
    OTHER MODERATE OR LIBERAL PROTESTANTS 26 1.7 1.7 74.6
    EPISCOPAL CHURCH 43 2.9 2.9 77.5
    OTHER CONSERVATIVE, EVANGELICAL, OR SECTARIAN PROTESTANTS 97 6.5 6.5 84.0
    OTHER CHRISTIAN, NOT OTHERWISE SPECIFIED 191 12.7 12.7 96.7
    NON-CHRISTIAN 50 3.3 3.3 100.0

    NOTE: this table reflects the number of persons in congregations.

    To get it:

    1. I went to the National Congregations home page.
    2. Clicked explore the data 
    3. Clicked on Basic Findings for each Variable in the Surveys: Wave 2: 2006-2007 data 
    4. Clicked under the Variables.  "Denomiation." 
    5. Clicked: "I want my tables to reflect the number of persons in congregations"
    6. Clicked: Create Frequency Table. 

    The same information is presented slightly differently on page 27 of The National Congregations Study report "American Congregations at the Beginning of the 21st Century" by Mark Chaves

    RELIGIOUS TRADITION:
    Percent with no denominational affiliation                         13.9   

        Percent associated with each denomination or tradition:
    Roman Catholic                                                                 27.9       
    Baptist conventions/denominations                                   20.7       
    Methodist denominations                                                    9.1         
    Lutheran/Episcopal denominations                                     7.9
    Pentecostal                                                                         5.6
    Denominations in the reformed tradition                             4.5
    Other Christian                                                                  20.9
    Jewish                                                                                  1.6
    Non-Christian and Non-Jewish                                             1.7

    I reflected on the Report at:

    Two new reports: Thumma / Bird on Megachurches and Chaves on American Congregations

    Duke sociologist Mark Chaves has written the 2004 Harvard University Press book:

    More raw unweighted data is available at:

    National Congregations Study, Cumulative Dataset (1998 and 2006-2007)

    From this type of data (if it was properly weighted), one would begin to form the chart above. 

    9) Denominational affiliation (collapsed 1) (DENCODE)
    TOTAL %
    0) No denomination 313 11.4
    1) Roman Catholic 663 24.2
    2) Southern Baptist Convention 285 10.4
    3) Black Baptist 91 3.3
    4) American Baptist Churches 26 0.9
    5) Other Baptist 120 4.4
    6) United Methodist Church 245 8.9
    7) Black Methodist 23 0.8
    8) Other Methodist 9 0.3
    9) Evangelical Lutheran Church in America 111 4.1
    10) Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod 52 1.9
    11) Other Lutheran 19 0.7
    12) Presbyterian Church (USA) 82 3.0
    13) Other Presbyterian 9 0.3
    14) Assembly of God 48 1.8
    15) Other Pentecostal 54 2.0
    16) Church of God in Christ 21 0.8
    17) Disciples of Christ 17 0.6
    18) Episcopal Church 77 2.8
    19) United Church of Christ 51 1.9
    20) Reformed Church in America 8 0.3
    21) Church of the Brethren 7 0.3
    22) Jehovah's Witness 28 1.0
    23) Mennonite 7 0.3
    24) Church of the Nazarene 20 0.7
    25) Seventh-day Adventists 15 0.5
    26) Unitarian Universalist Association 16 0.6
    27) Eastern Orthodox 13 0.5
    28) Church/Churches of Christ 16 0.6
    29) Various Church of God 26 0.9
    30) Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon) 45 1.6
    31) Jewish 45 1.6
    32) Non-Christian/non-Jewish 53 1.9
    35) Evangelical 13 0.5
    36) Christian and Missionary Alliance 13 0.5
    37) Other Mainline/Liberal 9 0.3
    38) Other Conservative/Evangelical 34 1.2
    39) Other Christian, nec 56 2.0
    TOTAL 2740 100.0

  • Catalyst Conference Happening Now and More Reflections on Twitter

    Just wanted to let people know that Catalyst Conference is happening right now in Atlanta. 

    Their podcast has outstanding interviews with Christian leaders

    Here is their website:

    Here is a report from the second day by Skye Jethani from Leadership Journal at the Out of Ur blog:
    Live from Catalyst: Day 2 Play by Play: Updates all day from the mega-conference in Atlanta.

    A number of church leadership bloggers I watch are there:

    Andy Crouch – Culture Making
    Brad Lomenick – Catalyst Conference
    CatalystSpace – Catalyst Conference Blog
    Craig Groeschel and Bobby Gruenewald – LifeChurch.tv:…
    Dave Ferguson – Velocity
    Ed Stetzer – LifeWay Research, author, EdStetzer.com
    Mark Batterson – Evotional, Thoughts on Life and Leadership
    Out of Ur – Leadership Journal's Blog
    Perry Noble – Pastor of NewSpring Church in Anderson,…
    Seth Godin – Blog
    Tim Sanders – Sanders Says
    Tim Stevens – LeadingSmart
    Tony Morgan | one of the simply strategic guys

    I have written about Twitter in the past but for those of you confused about what it is, this is a good example of what it can do.  Yesterday Skye Jethani wrote, "This is definitely the largest ministry conference I’ve been to. At least 12,000 people in the arena." Currently, lots of these people are using their Blackberries, or iPhones, etc. in the arena to access the internet and jotting quick notes about what is proceeding. See http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Catalyst08 Some of these people include the church leaders bloggers from above:  @ahc, @perrynoble, @tpmorgan, @timastevens, @edstetzer, @MarkBatterson, @daveferguson, and @OutOfUr.

    By the way, it is also interesting that Twitterers @edcyzewski, @jasonclark, and @DanKimball are at 3 different Christian leadership conferences in addition to Catalyst.

    I have added my "Twitter badge" to the right column of the blog.  Essentially, these are short 140 character (1-2 line) updates on what I am up to.  If it isn't important to blog about, I will jot it down in Twitter. 

    As I recommend about 80 blogs to follow — (See http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2008/03/church-leadersh.html. I also have another post that includes all of the blogs I subscribe to.  I use Google Reader to follow blogs) –  I also would recommend the people I am following on Twitter.  See http://twitter.com/AndyRowell/friends

    Twitter is fun if you want to see in real time what people you are interested in are thinking.  For example, I had fun seeing what people are thinking about watching the presidential debates or during a conference like Catalyst or Willow Creek's Leadership Summit.  It is also just interesting hearing about people's lives.  But it has its flaws as well.  It is easy to miss things. 

    Facebook is much more personal in that the people I am friends with are really real life friends whereas the people "following" me and I am "following" on Twitter are generally not people I know well in real life. 

    Facebook is also much more flexible in that you can post much more information easily.  I appreciate the "notifications" in Facebook so I don't miss ways people are trying to communicate with me. 

    Still, I respond most reliably to email.

    One last comment on Twitter.  If you are going to Twitter, say something interesting or significant.  If it is really trivial, just skip it.  Twitter is for the more trivial but not the completely trivial.  Perhaps Facebook status can have very insignificant stuff.