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A response to Franklin Graham’s denouncing the impeachment inquiry

A response to Franklin Graham's recent Facebook post

 

Mr. Graham,

It has come to my attention that your comments on impeachment are being read by many. Please be more careful with your words. There are a number of things you say here that are incorrect.
– This is the second week of public impeachment hearings. The impeachment inquiry was announced Sept 24.
– Very little of the impeachment inquiry or hearings can be construed as Trump's "enemies" trying to "destroy" him. The inquiries have consisted of various witnesses describing how President Trump and his team worked with Ukraine. The majority of the witnesses consider themselves non-partisan and have worked under Democratic and Republican administrations. Republican politicians, journalists, and commentators agree that Trump's behavior with regard to Ukraine was inappropriate. Mitt Romney and Fox News's Andrew Napolitano are two prominent examples.

"81 percent of Republicans, 85 percent of evangelical Christians and 87 percent of voters living in rural areas agreed that it was unjust for a U.S. politician to ask other countries' governments for help to win an election" according to Oct 17-23 Grinnell College National Poll.

A Oct 27-30 Fox News poll yielded these responses:

In general, is it appropriate for President Trump to ask leaders of foreign countries to investigate allegations against political rivals, or not?
64% No.

To the best of your knowledge, did President Trump ask the Ukrainian president to investigate his political rivals?
60% Yes, he did.

To the best of your knowledge, did President Trump hold up military aid to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate his political rivals?
52% Yes, he did

The impeachment inquiry is related to these issues.

– You also list items which you think outweigh Trump's faults.
– It is not the case that "The U.S. economy is better than it has ever been." According leading economic indicators, "the economy is faltering slightly."  You are right that the employment rate is low but that is a lagging indicator. You are also right that the stock market is high but that is only one factor. However, it is not clear that Trump's policies such as the tax cut have contributed to the health of the economy. His trade war has demonstrably hurt the economy.
– Trump's betrayal of the Kurds in Syria allowed for the release of ISIS prisoners. No expert agrees this was the way to control ISIS. Two days ago a headline in USA Today read: "Pentagon: President Trump's order to withdraw troops from Syria allows ISIS to rebuild." You initially pleaded for Trump to rescind this decision. On Oct 9 you wrote: "The Kurds are the ones who have been leading the fight against ISIS in Syria. Also pray for the Christians who the Kurds have been protecting. They could be annihilated. Would you pray w/me that Pres. @realDonaldTrump will reconsider? Thousands of lives hang in the balance." It is odd that you now praise his handling of ISIS. 
– Indeed, it was announced that the US embassy was moved to Jerusalem, a symbolic move. People are welcome to read up on this issue as to whether it is significant. And just this week the Trump administration declared Israeli settlements in the West Bank to not be illegal (though they acknowledge the settlements are morally wrong). And today Trump ally Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted.
– Finally, you are right that Trump has permitted his administration to appoint conservative judges. The key white evangelical reason for this is "abortion" but it is not clear that restricting access to abortion reduces the abortion rate. Instead, it is easier access to high quality contraceptives that reduces the number of abortions and that is often limited under Republican administrations and so the abortion rate increases.
– In some ways, Trump has defended "religious freedom" but primarily for Christians. Moreover, his withdrawal from Syria has hurt Syrian Christians and he has radically limited the acceptance of refugees (many who are fleeing religious persecution).
– Indeed it is appropriate to pray for President Trump but also (as Jesus emphasizes) "for your enemies."

A few other comments for the supporters of Franklin Graham:
– Franklin Graham made $636,451 from Samaritan's Purse (Operation Christmas Child) in 2018 according to the organization's 990 tax form. He reports that he works there 40 hours per week. When last disclosed in 2014, Franklin Graham also reported working 40 hours per week for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association which now "exists to support and extend the evangelistic calling and ministry of Franklin Graham." In 2015 it became a "an association of churches" so salaries are not disclosed. In 2014, his salary from BGEA was: $205,999.

– Also two of the Board of Directors of Samaritan's Purse are his children.
– Jane Cissie Lynch, Ministry Spokesperson and Special Projects Producer, Samaritan’s Purse.$48,617
– Roy Graham, Director of Donor Relations, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association
– His son Will also works for him as Vice President of BGEA. Last disclosure was $98,698 in 2014.

Like the Falwell family and Trump family, nepotism and wealth and fame are typical values in the Graham family.

Franklin Graham publicly declared his admiration for Trump in 2011. He met with Putin alone in Nov or Dec 2015 and and made another trip in March 2019 and met with the sanctioned Putin ally Vyacheslav Volodin. It is clear that Franklin Graham is a long-time ally of Trump's. Franklin Graham has no theological education.

There is no reason why Graham should be looked to for wise judgment on theological or moral or global news issues. For all of these reasons, Franklin Graham should not be looked to for wise judgment on theological or moral or global news issues.

__________________

See also more posts about and documentation about Franklin Graham at: https://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/franklin-graham/

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Timeline of instances of “evangelical leaders” meeting with Trump

I have tried to trace the photos of different gatherings with Trump in chronological order. Click the link to see the photos. In summary, there are about 49 "evangelical leaders" who have gathered with Trump. About twenty have stayed the same since June 2016 to Oct 2019. Compare below the June 2016 official list of twenty-five, the August 2018 list of those who gathered to celebrate evangelicals and Trump, and the official twenty-five on the Oct 29, 2019 gathering list. 

Update Dec 11, 2019: See also the: List of worship leaders gathering at the White House on Friday, Dec 6, 2019

Update: Dec 22, 2019 5:00 pm Central Time: See also the list of 200 signatories to a letter supporting Trump (after the bombshell Dec 19th Mark Galli Christianity Today editorial. At this Twitter thread, I compiled about 130 notable reactions to the editorial). The list of 200 signatories is similar to the list of "evangelical leaders" listed below who have visited the White House (except it is missing Franklin Graham, Johnnie Moore, and Samuel Rodriguez). None of the signatories are associated with a denomination that provides accountability. None are professors. Almost all have their own ministry that they run independently.   

Update: Jan 6, 2020. I have also identified the people in the Jan 3, 2020 Evangelicals for  Trump group photo with Trump at this post: Evangelicals for Trump Coalition Launch rally at King Jesus International Ministry in Miami on Friday January 3, 2020

List of 49 "evangelical leaders" who have met with Trump in alphabetical order by last name: 

June 2016 August 2018 October 2019
    2. Lourdes Aguirre, President of Eresamerica, President of United Market Solutions (a four-person consultant group). "President of UMS Advisory Board Member of Latinos For Trump Campaign Blessed Hispanic Leader Ready to serve POTUS and White House with Faith Based Initiatives." (New).
1. · Michele Bachmann - Former Congresswoman 31. Michele Bachmann 3. Michelle Bachmann, Former Congresswoman
    4. Pastor Luke Barnett, Senior Pastor of Dream City Church (New).
  25. Gary L Bauer 5. Gary Bauer, President of American Values
2. · A.R. Bernard* (See April 2019 thread. He left Trump's advisory board in Aug 2017) - Senior Pastor and CEO, Christian Cultural Center     
3. · Mark Burns - Pastor, Harvest Praise and Worship Center    
4. · Tim Clinton - President, American Association of Christian Counselors 4. Tim Clinton 6. Dr. Tim Clinton, President of American Association of Christian Counselors
5. · Kenneth and Gloria Copeland - Founders, Kenneth Copeland Ministries 10. Kenneth Copeland (and Gloria)  
  20. David Crank  
    7. Apostle Alberto Delgado, Pastor of Alpha & Omega (New).
6. · James Dobson - Author, Psychologist and Host, My Family Talk 22. James Dobson (and Shirley) 8. Dr. James Dobson, Founder of Dr. James Dobson Family Institute, 9. Shirley Dobson, Co-Founder of Dr. James Dobson Family Institute 
7. · Jerry Falwell, Jr. - President, Liberty University 3. Jerry Falwell Jr. (Becki Falwell)  
8. · Ronnie Floyd* (Last appeared in Aug 2018) - Senior Pastor, Cross Church 33. Ronnie Floyd*  
9. · Jentezen Franklin - Senior Pastor, Free Chapel 14. Jentezen Franklin 10. Pastor Jentezen Franklin, Senior Pastor of Free Chapel
  11. Jim Garlow 11. Pastor Jim Garlow, Senior Pastor of Skyline Church San Diego, left in Nov 2018
  2. Franklin Graham (who attended with daughter Cissie Graham Lynch) 22. Cissie Graham Lynch, Samaritan's Purse
  21. Timothy M. Hill  
10. · Jack Graham - Senior Pastor, Prestonwood Baptist Church 1. Jack Graham (and Deb) 12. Dr. Jack Graham, Senior Pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church
  32. J. D. Greear* (this was his first and last meeting)  
11. · Harry Jackson - Senior Pastor, Hope Christian Church 19. Harry Jackson 13. Pastor Harry Jackson Jr., Senior Pastor of Hope Christian Church
12. · Robert Jeffress - Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church of Dallas 6. Robert Jeffress 14. Pastor Robert Jeffress, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Dallas
13. · David Jeremiah* - Senior Pastor, Shadow Mountain Community Church    
  29. Alveda King  
  17. Marcus and Joni Lamb  
14. · Richard Land – President, Southern Evangelical Seminary    
  7. Greg Laurie (and Cathe) 15. Pastor Greg Laurie, Senior Pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship
15. · James MacDonald* (Resigned from Trump's advisory board in Oct 2016) – Founder and Senior Pastor, Harvest Bible Chapel    
    16. Apostle Guillermo Maldonado, Co-Founder and Senior Pastor of El Rey Jesús
    25. Pastor Gregg Matte, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Houston (New).
  8. Eric Metaxas  
16. · Johnnie Moore - Author, President of The KAIROS Company 23. Johnnie Moore 23. Reverend Johnnie Moore, President of The Kairos Company
17. · Robert Morris - Senior Pastor, Gateway Church 15. Robert Morris (and Debbie) 17. Pastor Robert Morris, Senior Pastor of Gateway Church
18. · Tom Mullins – Senior Pastor, Christ Fellowship­   18. Pastor Tom Mullins, Senior Pastor of Christ Fellowship
  13. Malachi O'Brien  
  26. Tony Perkins 24. Tony Perkins, President of Family Research Council
19. · Ralph Reed - Founder, Faith and Freedom Coalition 24. Ralph Reed (and Jo Anne) 19. Ralph Reed, Founder and Chairman of Faith & Freedom Coalition
20. · James Robison - Founder, Life OUTREACH International 16. James Robison (and Betty)  
  9. Samuel Rodriguez 20. Reverend Samuel Rodriguez, President of National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
  12. Darrell Scott (Belinda Scott)  
  27. Kelly Shackelford  
22. · Jay Strack - President, Student Leadership University   21. Dr. Jay Strack, Founder of Student Leadership University
21. · Tony Suarez - Executive Vice President, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference    
     
23. · Paula White - Senior Pastor, New Destiny Christian Center 5. Paula White-Cain, and Brad Knight, son of Paula White 1. Pastor Paula White Cain, Senior Pastor of New Destiny Christian Center, passed to son in May 2019
  30. Lester Warner  
  28. Tim Wildmon  
24. · Tom Winters* - Attorney, Winters and King, Inc.    
25. · Sealy Yates – Attorney, Yates and Yates    

 

Timeline of instances and photos of "evangelical leaders" meeting with Trump

 

Sept 28, 2015 at Trump Tower

Jentezen Franklin

 

Jan 25, 2016

Jentezen Franklin

June 2016: List of advisers with

*those who seem to be less involved in November 2019.

The full list of board members, as shared by the campaign:

  1. · Michele Bachmann - Former Congresswoman
  2. · A.R. Bernard* (See April 2019 thread. He left Trump's advisory board in Aug 2017) – Senior Pastor and CEO, Christian Cultural Center 
  3. · Mark Burns - Pastor, Harvest Praise and Worship Center
  4. · Tim Clinton – President, American Association of Christian Counselors
  5. · Kenneth and Gloria Copeland - Founders, Kenneth Copeland Ministries
  6. · James Dobson - Author, Psychologist and Host, My Family Talk
  7. · Jerry Falwell, Jr. - President, Liberty University
  8. · Ronnie Floyd* (Last appeared in Aug 2018) – Senior Pastor, Cross Church
  9. · Jentezen Franklin - Senior Pastor, Free Chapel
  10. · Jack Graham - Senior Pastor, Prestonwood Baptist Church
  11. · Harry Jackson - Senior Pastor, Hope Christian Church
  12. · Robert Jeffress - Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church of Dallas
  13. · David Jeremiah* – Senior Pastor, Shadow Mountain Community Church
  14. · Richard Land – President, Southern Evangelical Seminary
  15. · James MacDonald* (Resigned from Trump's advisory board in Oct 2016) – Founder and Senior Pastor, Harvest Bible Chapel
  16. · Johnnie Moore - Author, President of The KAIROS Company
  17. · Robert Morris - Senior Pastor, Gateway Church
  18. · Tom Mullins – Senior Pastor, Christ Fellowship­
  19. · Ralph Reed – Founder, Faith and Freedom Coalition
  20. · James Robison - Founder, Life OUTREACH International
  21. · Tony Suarez - Executive Vice President, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
  22. · Jay Strack - President, Student Leadership University
  23. · Paula White - Senior Pastor, New Destiny Christian Center
  24. · Tom Winters* – Attorney, Winters and King, Inc.
  25. · Sealy Yates – Attorney, Yates and Yates

Trump's evangelical advisory board features Bachmann, Falwell

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-evangelical-advisory-board-224612

 

Who’s Who of Trump’s ‘Tremendous’ Faith Advisers

The Republican candidate finally names his campaign’s evangelical connections.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/june-web-only/whos-who-of-trumps-tremendous-faith-advisors.html

 

Meet Donald Trump’s New Evangelical Advisory Board

https://thinkprogress.org/meet-donald-trumps-new-evangelical-advisory-board-6a5bfc5460d7/

 

Jan 20, 2017 Inauguration

Jentezen Franklin

Robert Morris

 

Jan 21, 2017 Inauguration: Presidential Inaugural Prayer Service

Cissie Graham Lynch, David Jeremiah, Ronnie Floyd, Jack Graham, Greg Laurie, Darrell Scott, Harry Jackson, Johnnie Moore 

Franklin Graham

 

Feb 2, 2017 National Prayer Breakfast

Ralph Reed

 

Apr 10, 2017 Neil Gorsuch

Ralph Reed

 

May 3-4, 2017 Executive Order on Religious Freedom.

Greg Laurie, Ronnie Floyd, James Dobson, and Jack Graham

Jentezen Franklin, Darrell Scott, Mark Burns

Johnnie Moore, Tim Clinton

Franklin Graham

Jack Graham and Apostle Maldonado

Ralph Reed

Cissie Graham Lynch and Eric Metaxas

Robert Jeffress

Darrell Scott, Alveda King

Apostle W. T. Jackson, Mark Burns

Tom Mullins including group shot

National Day of Prayer

May 6, 2017

Mark Burns, Darrell Scott, and A.R. Bernard

 

July 12, 14, 2017

Mark Burns, Ronnie Floyd, Robert Jeffress, Johnnie Moore. 

Mark Burns

 

Sept 6, 2017

Johnnie Moore

Robert Jeffress, Mark Burns, James Robison, Darrell Scott.

Good meeting

Burns

 

Oct 6, 2017

Paula White-Cain

 

Nov 8, 2017 Mental Health meeting

Johnnie Moore

 

Dec 8, 2017

Ralph Reed

 

Dec 12, 2017 Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel

Mark Burns, group shot, Robert Jeffress, Paula White-Cain, Jack Graham, Johnnie Moore, Gary Bauer, Ralph Reed, Tony Perkins, Greg Laurie, Jentezen Franklin, James Dobson, Harry Jackson Jr., Robert Morris, Tim Clinton, Jim Garlow, Apostle G Maldonado

Update: Nov 18, 2019: Mike Evans, from the Friends of Zion Museum in Jerusalem, is part of this Dec 12, 2017 group, holding the plaque for the award "Friends of Zion" (from his organization).  He claims to be a "member of the Trump Faith Initiative, President Trump's evangelical advisory board." The "board" is no longer official but was only something during the campaign as there seems to be legal limitations on the formality of the group while Trump is president. He has NOT been listed among other lists of Trump's evangelicals but his mustachioed face can be seen in some photos. He released a statement on Nov 18, 2019.

 

Jerusalem Dec 2017

 

 

Dec 17, 2017

Jentezen Franklin, Darrell Scott, Mark Burns

Dec 19, 2017

Jerry Falwell Jr.

Dec 21, 2017

Ralph Reed

Dec 27, 2017

Darrell Scott

 

Feb 15, 2018

Darrell Scott

Mark Burns

 

Mar 20, 2018

Darrell Scott

 

Apr 27, 2018 Meeting on Prison Reform & Redemption Act

Paula White, Darrell Scott, and Johnnie Moore

 

May 1, 2018 Substance Abuse

Paula White-Cain

Cissie Graham Lynch and Eric Metaxas

 

May 18, 2018 Prison Reform Summit

Johnnie Moore

 

June 20, 2018

Darrell Scott

 

July 15, 2018 Youth for Tomorrow event (not at White House)

Paula White-Cain, Jack Graham, Jentezen Franklin, Johnnie Moore, Harry Jackson Jr.

Casual

Jul 22, 2018 State Department Ministerial to Advance Religious Freedom

Johnnie Moore

 

 

July 31, 2018 Faith Initiative and Opportunity meeting with Millennial leaders

Paula White-Cain

 

Aug 27, 2018

Jentezen Franklin

Johnnie Moore

Franklin Graham

Ralph Reed

Greg Laurie

Darrell Scott, Jerry Falwell Jr., Becky Falwell, Cissie Graham Lynch, Eric Metaxas

David Brody, Michele Bachmann, Robert Jeffress

Jim Garlow

Jay Strack (and Diane) and James and Shirley Dobson

Excerpted below is a list of attendees from my post: 

Evangelicals meeting with Trump at the White House August 27, 2018

Here is an attempt at a partial list of who attended based on photos and reports  

 "Before the dinner, Trump met privately with a small handful of evangelical leaders and their wives."  These people are listed first in bold.

*those who seem to be less involved in November 2019.

  1. Jack Graham (and Deb)
  2. Franklin Graham (who attended with daughter Cissie Graham Lynch)
  3. Jerry Falwell Jr. (Becki Falwell)
  4. Tim Clinton
  5. Paula White-Cain, and Brad Knight, son of Paula White
  6. Robert Jeffress
  7. Greg Laurie (and Cathe)
  8. Eric Metaxas
  9. Samuel Rodriguez
  10. Kenneth Copeland (and Gloria)
  11. Jim Garlow
  12. Darrell Scott (Belinda Scott)
  13. Malachi O'Brien
  14. Jentezen Franklin
  15. Robert Morris (and Debbie)
  16. James Robison (and Betty)
  17. Marcus Lamb
  18. Joni Lamb
  19. Harry Jackson
  20. David Crank
  21. Timothy M. Hill
  22. James Dobson (and Shirley)
  23. Johnnie Moore
  24. Ralph Reed (and Jo Anne)
  25. Gary L Bauer
  26. Tony Perkins
  27. Kelly Shackelford
  28. Tim Wildmon
  29. Alveda King
  30. Lester Warner
  31. Michele Bachmann
  32. J. D. Greear* (this was his first and last meeting)
  33. Ronnie Floyd*
  34. Darryl Strawberry 
  35. (Traci Strawberry)
  36. Donald Trump
  37. Melania Trump
  38. Ivanka Trump
  39. Jared Cushner
  40. Ivanka Trump
  41. Mike Pence
  42. Karen Pence
  43. Sarah Sanders
  44. Kellyanne Conway
  45. Ben Carson
  46. Alex Azar
  47. Sam Brownback

 

Oct 8, 2018 Swearing in of Brett Kavanaugh

Jentezen Franklin

Ralph Reed, Jack Graham, and Franklin Graham

 

Nov 6, 2018 Mid-terms

Franklin Graham, Paula White-Cain

 

 

 

Nov 29, 2018 celebrate PEPFAR (U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief)

Johnnie Moore

 

Dec 13, 2018 Christmas reception

Franklin Graham

 

Dec 21, 2018 First Step Act

Ralph Reed

 

Jan 11, 2019 Border Security

Jentezen Franklin

 

Mar 13, 2019 Faith Based Briefing

Antonio Burroughs and Tony Suarez and Samuel Rodriguez and Brian Gallardo and others

 

April 1, 2019 First Act Prison Reform

Jentezen Franklin

Ralph Reed

 

May 1, 2019 National Day of Prayer

Jentezen Franklin

Johnnie Moore

Franklin Graham

Mike Huckabee and Ralph Reed

Michele Bachmann

Lance Wallnau, Harry Jackson Jr., Paul Marc Goulet.

James Robison, Robert Morris

 

May 9, 2019 Border Crisis

Jentezen Franklin

Jentezen Franklin

 

May 16, 2019 Immigration speech

Ralph Reed and Robert Jeffress

 

Jun 13, 2019 Criminal Justice Reform

Johnnie Moore

Darrell Scott

 

Sept 20 and 23, 2019 religious freedom event at the UN General Assembly

Jentezen Franklin

Jentezen Franklin

Franklin Graham

Paula White-Cain

 

Sep 26, 2019

Mark Burns

 

Sept 27, 2019 National Hispanic Heritage Month White House Reception

Albert Reyes and Tony Suarez

 

Oct 4, 2019 Young Black Leadership Summit

Mark Burns

 

 

Oct 29, 2019

Jentezen Franklin

and more

Paula White-Cain

Apostle G Maldonado

Full list of attendees: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-in-town-pool-report-3-statement-on-faith-le-1839452896/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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See also: Meeting between Trump and "faith leaders" on October 29, 2019 

Corrections to their bios and marked (New) if they seem not to have attended previously.

  1. Pastor Paula White Cain, Senior Pastor of New Destiny Christian Center, passed to son in May 2019
  2. Lourdes Aguirre, President of Eresamerica, President of United Market Solutions (a four-person consultant group). "President of UMS Advisory Board Member of Latinos For Trump Campaign Blessed Hispanic Leader Ready to serve POTUS and White House with Faith Based Initiatives." (New).
  3. Michelle Bachmann, Former Congresswoman
  4. Pastor Luke Barnett, Senior Pastor of Dream City Church (New).
  5. Gary Bauer, President of American Values
  6. Dr. Tim Clinton, President of American Association of Christian Counselors
  7. Apostle Alberto Delgado, Pastor of Alpha & Omega (New).
  8. Dr. James Dobson, Founder of Dr. James Dobson Family Institute
  9. Shirley Dobson, Co-Founder of Dr. James Dobson Family Institute
  10. Pastor Jentezen Franklin, Senior Pastor of Free Chapel
  11. Pastor Jim Garlow, Senior Pastor of Skyline Church San Diego, left in Nov 2018
  12. Dr. Jack Graham, Senior Pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church
  13. Pastor Harry Jackson Jr., Senior Pastor of Hope Christian Church
  14. Pastor Robert Jeffress, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Dallas
  15. Pastor Greg Laurie, Senior Pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship
  16. Apostle Guillermo Maldonado, Co-Founder and Senior Pastor of El Rey Jesús
  17. Pastor Robert Morris, Senior Pastor of Gateway Church
  18. Pastor Tom Mullins, Senior Pastor of Christ Fellowship
  19. Ralph Reed, Founder and Chairman of Faith & Freedom Coalition
  20. Reverend Samuel Rodriguez, President of National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
  21. Dr. Jay Strack, Founder of Student Leadership University
  22. Cissie Graham Lynch, Samaritan's Purse
  23. Reverend Johnnie Moore, President of The Kairos Company
  24. Tony Perkins, President of Family Research Council
  25. Pastor Gregg Matte, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Houston (New).
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What White Evangelicals are saying from the Oct 27-30, 2019 Poll by Fox News

A Twitter thread

and a PDF of that thread: Download Oct 27-30 Fox News Poll