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60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum

What is a church?  Allow me in this post to introduce you to three phrases:

esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks of the church)

bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church)

plene notae ecclesiae (full marks of the church)

My thesis is that there are substantive differences along the ecclesiological spectrum regarding the first category–the esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks of the church) but that there is ecumenical potential–that is their possibility for broad consensus–around the second and third categories.

All Christians believe that a church should be "one holy catholic and apostolic" as the Nicene Creed says.  All Christians believe a community needs a few "essential marks of the church" (esse notae ecclesiae) to be "a church."  Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox require structural identification with what they perceive to be "the Church" that traces its identity back to the apostles through apostolic succession.  The Reformers are famous for calling for two marks: "the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered."  Others suggest "a church" is any group that gathers in the name of Jesus:  "For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them" (Matthew 18:20).  

I have made a list below of lots of theologians and I have guessed where they might fall on the ecclesiological spectrum.  The ones at the top would have more formal requirements for what constitutes "a church."  The ones at the bottom would consider a community to be "a church" with relatively few formal requirements. 

All believe that their version of formal requirements and flexibility best conform to the New Testament parameters.  The ones at the bottom of the list with fewer formal requirements might say that their churches are actually "stricter" in some respects.  Thus, I labeled the list "high church" to "low church" not "very strict" to "less strict."

Though these theologians would disagree strongly about what is essential, they would all agree that "a church" should grow closer to what it is supposed to be–developing more bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church) and they all aspire to have the plene notae ecclesiae (the full marks of the church).  Perhaps the latter two areas are where we can find the most ecumenical consensus. 

In my papers on the missional ecclesiologies of Anglican and current Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams and the the Mennonite ethicist (1927-1997) John Howard Yoder, I reflect on the central practices in their ecclesiologies.  For Williams, these are esse notae ecclesiae (essential marks).  Yoder's five practices in Body Politics are bene notae ecclesiae (good marks of the church).

The four practices I draw from Williams are these:

(1) moral discernment oriented by martyrdom (drawn mostly from his book Why Study the Past?)

(2) participation in the sacraments

(3) standing under the authority of Scripture

(4) communicating the Good News drawn from a letter. 

For the latter three practices see, Williams's “Archbishop of Canterbury's Advent Letter,” The Anglican Communion Official Website (14 December 2007). 

Williams hoped that the Anglican Communion would rally around these constitutive practices–esse notae

On the other hand, John Howard Yoder describes well the thriving church–bene notae.
(1) Binding and Loosing / reconciling dialogue
(2) Disciples Break Bread Together / Eucharist
(3) Baptism and the New Humanity / Baptism
(4) The Fullness of Christ / Multiplicity of gifts
(5) The Rule of Paul / Open meeting

Yoder does not intend to be comprehensive in his list–he calls these "sample" practices–and therefore, even though they are inspiring, they do not constitute a full ecclesiological foundation (as I argue in my paper).

If you are interested in this topic, you will want to read Miroslav Volf's book After Our Likeness: The Church As the Image of the Trinity. Volf engages Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) and John Zizioulas–both of whom are near the top of the list–over the issue of esse notae.  Volf argues that a community of people is "a church" if they "gather in the name of Jesus" and he adds a few more esse notae.  Thus, he is pretty close to the bottom of the list.  He is arguing that being "at the bottom of the list"–having a free church theology–can be theologically legitimate.

Therefore, as we think about ecclesiological differences with others, I think it is worth reflecting on not only our differences as evident on the spectrum below, but also about the possibility of common purposes in the bene and plene notae.

 

Disclaimer: I have not read books by all of these people and do not know all of their ecclesiologies that well.  I was just trying to sketch out what I was thinking.  I thought my readers could help me fix the list.

I have put a little bit more about notae (marks) below the list.

60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum (from high church to low church)

High church: significant formal requirement for what constitutes "a church"

  1. Council of Trent
  2. Thomas Aquinas
  3. Pope Benedict XVI – Roman Catholic
  4. Henri de Lubac – RC
  5. William T. Cavanaugh – author of Torture and Eucharist
  6. Vincent J. Miller – Roman Catholic and author of Consuming Religion
  7. Pope John Paul II – RC
  8. Hans Urs von Balthasar
  9. Hans Küng – RC
  10. John Zizoulas – Eastern Orthodox
  11. Augustine
  12. Martin Luther
  13. John Calvin
  14. John Milbank – Anglo-Catholic
  15. John Wesley
  16. Oliver O'Donovan – Anglican
  17. N.T Wright – Anglican
  18. Dietrich Bonhoeffer – Lutheran
  19. Stanley Hauerwas – United Methodist
  20. Rowan Williams – Anglican
  21. Craig Van Gelder – Lutheran
  22. Patrick Keifert – Lutheran
  23. Søren Kierkegaard – Reformed
  24. Eugene Peterson – PCUSA
  25. Lesslie Newbigin – Reformed
  26. Karl Barth – Reformed
  27. Mark Driscoll – conservative Reformed
  28. Jürgen Moltmann – Reformed
  29. T.F. Torrance – Reformed
  30. Walter Brueggemann – Reformed
  31. Tim Keller – PCA
  32. Darrell Guder – Reformed
  33. John Piper – Reformed Baptist
  34. Reinhold Niebuhr – Congregational
  35. H. Richard Niebuhr – Congregational
  36. David Bosch – Reformed
  37. Wolfhart Pannenberg
  38. Richard Hays – UM
  39. Len Sweet – United Methodist
  40. James Dunn – UM
  41. Miroslav Volf – Episcopal and Pentecostal, author of After Our Likeness
  42. Scot McKnight – Evangelical Covenant
  43. Andrew Jones – Tall Skinny Kiwi
  44. Stan Grenz – Baptist
  45. Rick Warren – SBC
  46. Ed Stetzer – SBC
  47. Dan Kimball
  48. Menno Simons
  49. John Howard Yoder – Mennonite
  50. FF Bruce – Plymouth Brethren
  51. Bill Hybels – evangelical
  52. Andy Stanley – evangelical
  53. Rob Bell – evangelical
  54. David Fitch – author of The Great Giveaway
  55. Tony Jones
  56. Doug Pagitt
  57. Ryan Bolger – author of Emerging Churches
  58. Eddie Gibbs
  59. John Wimber – Vineyard founder
  60. Peter Rollins
  61. Alan Hirsch and Michael Frost – authors of The Shaping of Things to Come.
  62. Frank Viola – author of Reimaging Church
  63. Donald McGavran and Peter C. Wagner – founders of the "Church Growth Movement."
  64. George Barna – author of Revolution
  65. George Fox – Quaker, Society of Friends

Low church: fewer formal marks of what is needed to be called "a church"

The language of notae (marks) which I have used here is used differently by different theologians.  Some believe "a church" has certain beliefs, others believe a church has certain traits, others believe a church has a certain structure, others believe it has certain practices.   

The notae ecclesiae can be traced at least back to the Lutheran Church’s Augsburg Confession (1530) written by Philipp Melanchthon and Martin Luther.

The Church is the congregation of saints, in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered. And to the true unity of the Church it is enough to agree concerning the doctrine of the Gospel and the administration of the Sacraments.[1]

A revised version of the Augsburg Confession called the Variata, was later signed by John Calvin in 1540. Calvin’s words in The Institutes of the Christian Religion (1536, 1559) are quite similar to the Lutheran document.

The marks of the church and our application of them to judgment: Hence the form of the Church appears and stands forth conspicuous to our view. Wherever we see the word of God sincerely preached and heard, wherever we see the sacraments administered according to the institution of Christ, there we cannot have any doubt that the Church of God has some existence.[2]

Both name the proper preaching of the word and the proper administration of the sacraments as the crucial characteristics of a church.

John Howard Yoder develops four additional marks suggested by Menno Simons in the 1540’s: (1) holy living, (2) brotherly love, (3) unreserved testimony, and (4) suffering.[3]

 


[1] The Augsburg Confession, article 7 (The Book of Concord). Cited 9 July 2008. Online: http://www.bookofconcord.org/augsburgconfession.html#article7

[2] John Calvin, The Institutes of the Christian Religion (ed. John T. McNeill; trans. Ford Lewis Battles; 2 vols.; LCC; Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1960), IV, 1, 9. Cited 9 July 2008. Online: http://www.reformed.org/books/institutes/books/book4/bk4ch01.html#nine.htm

[3] John Howard Yoder, “A People in the World,” The Royal Priesthood, 77-89.

11 replies on “60 Theologians on an Ecclesiological Spectrum”

Interesting. I’d be curious to hear/see Andrew Thompson’s take on the list. Some observations…

It’s interesting that Tom Wright ranks “higher” than Rowan Williams.

Would a T.U.L.I.P. Calvinist like John Piper actually be at the top of “high church” since he believes the Church is basically fixed with the elect?

Barna’s no surprise. I remember reading an interview w/ him way back in the day. He had what he perceived as a very bad experience with a Roman Catholic Church. Probably an influence on his free church slide?

Jason, I identify with your swinging the center point around the twin poles of Christology and Anthropology. I think this is the same thing Amos Yong does when he argues we must recover Irenaeus “the Word and the Spirit as the twin hands of the Father.” Its Trinitarian, but the emphasis falls on a Spirit-Christology as a means of revisioning the Imago. I wonder too if Frost and Hirsch, in deemphasizing classical formulations of Christology (a footnote on the Trinity in their new title REJESUS), if this is why they end up with a weaker ecclesiology.

Thanks for responding. For the record, David Fitch writes on his blog:

http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2008/12/attractionalmissional-debate-wont-stop_08.html

“Ironically Andy Rowell has mapped 60 theologians on the spectrum of high church-low church. I think he’s ranked me wrong. For in terms of strong ecclesiology I, like the theologian who has most influenced me (Hauerwas), find myself committed to a very Mennonite communal ecclesiology along with a very high church (Catholic) view of liturgical formation. Having said that, I’d like to see Andy rank the missional thinkers along the Catholic – Reformed – Anabaptist theological spectrum.”

On further reflection, it probably makes sense to move the Anabaptists (Mennonites) above the Baptists to place closer to the United Methodists. At least at Duke, the United Methodists have a bit of Anglo-Catholic in them–but also a bit of tent meeting–John Wesley was a complicated guy.

I have read Rowan Williams and N.T. Wright and it seems to me RW is more low church than Wright so that is intentional but of course all of this is subjective and even a little humorous because it mixes all sorts of people who normally are not on one list. I appreciate the warmth of all the comments demonstrating that you all understand I am kind of playing around.

As I recall James K. A. Smith did a bit of this theological mapping in his book, James K. A. Smith, Introducing Radical Orthodoxy: Mapping a Post-secular Theology (Baker, 2004). Does anybody know that book well?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801027357?ie=UTF8&tag=churchleaders-20&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0801027357
I don’t mean to say that he agrees with what I am doing here but that he takes into account a large swath of theologians and tries come to terms with how they relate to one another.

I should also highlight Jason’s discussion at his blog which takes up some of these same issues:
Church as the ultimate new social movement
http://deepchurch.org.uk/2008/12/02/church-as-the-ultimate-new-social-movment/

This is a very fun list. Thanks for essaying it!
In the Anglican world Archbishop Rowan is considered much more “high church” than Bishop Tom, who is well known as an evangelical. But the terms may not be quite the same in this discussion…. (Also interesting that Eddie Gibbs, who is an Anglican, is so far down near the bottom.)

Good stuff. My first thought when I saw the ‘marks’ language was where the IX Marks guy, Mark Dever, would come down on the spectrum, but he didn’t make the cut of 60. Thoughts?

Oh, and one detail thing: I don’t think that Dan Kimball is a southern baptist. Vintage Faith (the church he pastors) seems to be non-denominational, or at least they hide it quite well on their website. They launched out of Santa Cruz Bible Church, which is not SBC, either. Regardless, I think you hit his ecclesiological views well.

Beth, in all the books I have read Rowan Williams is actually not all that high church though you wouldn’t guess that from the robes he wears. And I have heard Tom Wright talk strongly about Anglican liturgy. But certainly Wright is more evangelical than Williams.

Bob, I should have put in Mark Dever–I just forgot. I think I am just going to leave the list without changing it since it was just an exercise.

I have written about Dever at:
Putting the Conservative Reformed Theology movement (Piper, MacArthur, and Dever) in perspective
http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2008/05/discussions-abo.html

Thanks. I removed the SBC from Dan Kimball’s name. Better safe than sorry.

This is an interesting list and it is a helpful framework for analysis. One thing that strikes me is that it is all men (mostly white men I think. Does that reflect anything about the form or assumptions of the questions being asked–or what perspectives are in play in the discussion of ecclesiology? Just wondering…seems like it is always a question worth asking.

Craig Vangelder is more accurately identified as “reformed” than “lutheran.” It is true that he teaches at Luther Seminary but his shtick is substantially reformed.

Andy – thanks for including me on this list that I just discovered today. I am honored!!!

Regarding the comment”

I am surprised that Andrew Jones scores so far up the list given his communications and practices on ecclesiology??

Yes – I agree with Jason and would expect to be lower on the list when it comes to the low-organic-simple churches that I help start and encourage. However, I also partner closely with a vast range of churches and often end up ministering among churches that are higher up the scale – my work with Church Mission Society, for example.

Denise, Jim and Andrew,
Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

We had a car accident and then the stomach flu so I have been behind on blog comments.

Denise, I just wanted to affirm your comment on the need for me and others to hear women’s voices. Thanks.

andy

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